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You are invited to use this page to freely add commentary and to communicate with one another on the issues raised at the conference.
30-12-2006, 22:36 Steve Engelking
I was rather hoping you would bring in this sort of point, Cees. If you look at what the Mondcivitan Republic originally did - going the way of traditional voting and parliamentary democracy, you can see that they proved it did not work! We need a new idea here, you are right. I have a friend who was working with others at Manchester University on new ideas (evolving processes) along these lines and I will put you in touch. I like the idea of you heading a working group on this subject. Maybe there are others out there who would like to start initiatives in areas of their expertise and we can use this Servant Nation as a model nation to experiment with them and with the view of actually becoming a spokesman for mankind.
30-12-2006, 21:40 cees de groot / s DOT ace -at- orange DOT nl
i was invited for this forum to day ... my name is cees, i'm a dutch citizen born human transformed to a world citizen (1985); i was a partaker on the Lucknow symposium dec 2006. just a few moments ago i read: "Enforceable International law is THE IDEA whose time has come." i agree on that idea ... a thing that came to my mind, i think in the year 1990 after being some months in a local council, was about another way to decide for "a representative" in any type of governance situation. I thought that if you should choose you should not choose for 1 man or 1 party but you should choose for some relationships, and apart from collecting say 3 representatives in a team as "working trustees", i could manage the team in a sort of figure i should like as fair. "Building relationships in a governance core is THE IDEA whose time has come." ... is the sentence that came to my mind which is now can produce because of this "special time after Lucknow". What do you think of/solve, Cees? (could be a convinient question to be answered) as for a start ... in this "world service trust" i thought : anyone (each voter) gets 20 points as a votee budget and has to attach it to at least 3 votees for a legal "vote". What figures are possible: a triangle: 10 to 5 to 5 (measurable units, say points) 8 to 8 to 4 7 to 7 to 6 etc. A figure out of 4 angles (incl. square) 5 to 5 to 5 to 5 8 to 5 to 4 to 3 10 to 6 to 2 to 2 etc. A figure out of 5 angels (incl. pentagon) 4 to 4 to 4 to 4 to 4 5 to 5 to 5 to 3 to 2 10 to 2 to 2 to 2 to 2 to 2 etc. Is this inviting for chaos, Cees? Well, i agree that it looks for chaos at first site ... However, may i invite you to look more sharp to the core of decision making as what is presented to us by the system "one man one vote"?
30-12-2006, 14:20 Steve Engelking
My idea would be to use this page to start a dialogue between all the diverse groups and persons present at the conference and to share this with any other persons who feel they wish to contribute
15-01-2007, 1:32 Steve
It was really an oversight on my part. It was there all the time, I forgot to mention that the site was running dual language and your browser just happened to pick up the non-updated page. I have now gone back to just one language for the moment and if anyone wants to add material in other languages I will just add pages. Thanks for the praise for the software - I will pass it on to our geeks!
10-01-2007, 11:07 cees
today ... i see that my input of monday morning appeared again! i am happy ! this database seems to have recovery procedures and people in service ;-)
09-01-2007, 17:18 cees
strange enough ... just a few hours after me praising this sites editor ... my input for a week was gone :( MAY THE WEBMASTER HERE RECOVER this input and notify ... :)
08-01-2007, 13:22 cees (again)
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08-01-2007, 13:19 cees de groot
(here s' ace calling ) hi there partner S, whle building on S'ilence i listened to a reader of the site expressing his need for shorter lines ... i thought i managed to get a nicer form on the Generation Binding S'ilence (ongoing till march,31) article. if any comments as sort of a " reader requirement" please come in ... while it serves me being effective while composing ... ;-) s'ace
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01-01-2007, 21:57 cees / s -dot- ace AT orange -dot- nl
thanks for linking me in here, steve. in this field of Schonfield Trust i will try to write different than before. i like it as it goes and follow my hearth imagening the humans gathering here and as in dec2007 in Lucknow ... So, this writings on my subject of "S'ilence" will differ from other places where i experienced other energies when writing ... and let us state the i never write a thing the same as states before, simply because is sense myself as a human evoluating being in contact with other humans and a field that creates creative frictions all the time - of course this will directly give me a label as "dude" that i learned to see as a label from a field of "not willing to become aware" - which simply cannot be my field of living, so i just try "something that resonates to my bones". ;-) prosit on 2000 S'EVEN
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